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P0172 Banks One and Two - MAF Cleaning 201
12/23/2004, UD 02/27/2005
I had a check engine light come on today and went to AutoZone to get it read.
The code is P0172 banks one and two. The code was in the car twice. I looked up
on V8 SHO to try to find a way to fix it and I got confused with all the info.
What is really wrong with my car? I do have the symptoms of a MAF contamination.
Lack of power, buck/jerks, hesitation/surges on acceleration. How do I go about
cleaning or getting this problem fixed without spending too much money? Please
help with this.
Another question. What would be another gauge to have? I have an oil pressure
one and room for one more. Trans temp, pressure, water, or volts? This will help
with my custom gauge holder.
Rob Ziehm
97 ES
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The code is for Lean Adaptive Limits Reached. These are not oxygen sensor codes,
they are an indicator that the engine is simply running too lean. As the engine
runs, the computer adjusts the fuel trims to compensate and "hunt"
stoichiometry. It never attains it, but it does shoot for it. A perfect running
engine will have fuel trims that bounce around -0-. Sometimes (-), sometimes (+)
and bouncing back and forth. When the engine is running too lean, it'll have
positive fuel trims. Then computer is trying to fatten up the mixture. If the
engine is too rich, the computer will try and lean out the mixture by pulling
fuel out with a negative number. If you have the same code for both banks, the
problem is common to both sides of the engine. The first place I'd look is the
MAF sensor. This sensor is the main source of info for the computer to calculate
"load". Then "load" is used for fuel delivery. The O2 Sensors are there as feed
back and for the computer to make adjustments to the fuel delivery, these are
called fuel trims. If the engine is running too rich or too lean, the fuel trims
can compensate, but only to a point. When they reach their limits, the computer
kicks on the light and it's off to AutoZone to pull the codes.
So, my advice is to start by looking at the MAF wires. If you are running a K&N
filter or other tack oil based air filter, the oil from the filter can migrate
to the wires of the MAF. This tack oil attracts dust and other particulates that
do get past the filter and they build up on the wires of the sensor. This
buildup disturbs the air flowing over the sensor wires and gives the computer
incorrect information. This causes the engine to run poorly and the O2 sensors
report this back to the computer. The problem could also be a vacuum leak, but
whatever the problem, it's common to the whole engine. It could be a fuel
pressure problem too, but that's much less likely.
Clean the MAF first and report back.
Doug Lewis
Ford Performance Specialists Inc.
Atlanta Georgia (770) 949-7191
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What is the proper way to clean the MAF? Would a spray on electronics cleaner be
acceptable or maybe a can of compressed air like you would use to clean your
keyboard?
Jason Barker
99White/Tan
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Yeah, remove the two T-20 Torx head screws and pull the sensor out of the meter.
I use carb cleaner and then brake parts cleaner to remove the carb cleaner
residue. Then blow it off with a little compressed air until dry and reinstall.
Doug Lewis
Ford Performance Specialists Inc.
Atlanta Georgia (770) 949-7191
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Or just use quick-drying electronic contact cleaner. Make sure the package says
"leaves no residue". I use a product called "Lectra-motive" which has more of a
high-pressure liquid jet effect than a loose aerosol spray pattern. It also
happens to be cheaper. :-)
I give the MAF a good cleaning about every 10K miles or so.
Dan
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See Also:MAF Cleaning
Uncl Lar
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02/27/2005
Hey folks looking for some insight on the recurring P0172 Bank 1 too rich
condition. The car feels like it should have a little more oomph. I have some
concerns about tracking this one down however because the previous owner had the
cats and resonator removed for 'better' exhaust sound along with replaceing the
oem intake with a K&N cone in the engine bay. I am wondering if the second O2
sensor on bank 1 (diagram shows it located after the cat) is triggering this,
maybe a contaminated MAF, or what else causes this condition? Vacuum leak?
Faulty injector? Any input appreciated.
Louis
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Possible causes:
Fuel system
Excessive fuel pressure.
Leaking fuel injector(s).
Leaking fuel pressure regulator.
Low fuel pressure or running out of fuel.
Contaminated fuel injector(s).
Vapor management valve (VMV) leaking.
Induction system
Air leaks after the MAF.
Vacuum leaks (vacuum lines and gaskets).
Restricted air inlet.
PCV system.
Fuel purge system.
Improperly seated engine oil dipstick.
EGR System
leaking gasket.
Stuck open EGR valve.
Leaking diaphragm.
Base engine
Oil overfill.
Cam timing.
Cylinder compression.
Exhaust leaks before or near the HO2S(s).
Check intake air system for leaks, obstructions and damage.
Check air cleaner element, air cleaner housing for blockage.
Verify integrity of the PCV system.
Check for vacuum leaks.